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My MIL made hot curried fruit regularly! My husband made it as dessert for my sorority supper club back when we were in college. Tasty stuff!

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It made it onto the must-serve list for our family Christmas brunch, although I just use mixed frozen fruit and probably half (or less?) the sugar. The curry is warming but not spicy, and the leftovers are delicious mixed into oatmeal the next day.

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mixing into oatmeal - great idea!

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No offence but it sounds ghastly-curry and fruit and HOT? All at once?

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My family had a Bran Buds Era. My mum made endless muffins and stirred wheat germ into things. I’d make the pear version, no question.

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I have a friend who still eats bran buds every day. She travels with a big bag of them! I'm sure there's a better way to get one's fiber. I did buy bran buds last night because I want to make banana bran muffins.

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Oh wow - I forgot about wheat germ. There was ALWAYS a tall glass jar of it on our fridge door throughout the 80s for muffins and breads and yogurt and things.

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My husband and daughter love wheatgerm and have it with milk for dessert often. It is so sandy, I just don’t get it - it’s slightly better if it’s toasted but it’s basically a big ol’ pass for me.

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My main wheat germ association is from when I was a very young child in the late 70s and my health-food focused mother sprinkled it on banana slices for me. I think the theory was it would make the banana easier for a child to pick up, but all it did was make me feel like I was eating sandy banana slices. Unfortunately, at the age of 2 or 3 I could not articulate this objection, so I think it happened more than once.

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Yup, I grew up with that distinctively shaped jar of Kretschmer's wheat germ, too. My mother may well still have one of those jars in her kitchen cabinet. I've learned she still buys wheat germ, though now she gets it from the bulk department of a local market. She uses it in the homemade muesli she has for breakfast every morning.

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Casettes are very much a A Thing amongst the youngs! Do the folks who love casettes love Mariah Carey, though? The overlap is what I really question.

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They ARE? WOW.

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Oh I can sort of see it in my students. I got guys looking like the ones Cher throws off at the start of Clueless!

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I've been hearing this was happening for like a decade, but I've only VERY occasionally seen actual evidence (very hip/ slightly undergroundish bands selling them at merch tables).

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Yep, I went to a show recently where a young punk band opened and the only merch they sold of their music was on cassette.

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We were in Target yesterday and noticed they even they are selling vinyl. I know there has always been a vinyl market but consider is much more niche than our smallish, urban Target.

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Target has been on vinyl for a while now -- the sound makes it VERY popular Cassettes? Blowing my mind. -H

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My husband designs packaging for a small music label and regularly has to design cassette packaging these days. The label releases a lot of cassettes because they're cheap and easy to produce, as well as easy to schlep to a gig's merch table. The youngin's enjoy the audio limitations (this Brian Eno quote explains it as, "“Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided."

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I just replaced my still running perfectly well for a 25 year old car 2000 Subaru (if you need a great car, you need a Subaru) and I was very sad for many reasons (car payment) and one of them was that once a year I wouldn't be able to sit in my car and play a CD or cassette that I found whilst cleaning.

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SAAAAME we just had to get a new car over the weekend, getting a (fine, gray) fit that's 10 years newer than our previous (beautiful orange) fit, and while it DOES have a backup cam, it DOES NOT have a cd player, leaving my de la soul, my katamari damacy soundtrack, and the bananas things i've gifted my husband (bosch soundtrack! ian mcshane's album of covers!) to LANGUISH (weeps)

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I have a gen z son (age 20) who bought his first car - an ancient Toyota with 150K miles but in great shape (for $3K). He told his dad how he bought a contraption to turn the radio dial to a frequency where he can play music on his phone but it's annoying on road trips because he has to keep changing the frequency, and my husband was like, "um you have a cassette deck" and son was all *blank stare*, and when husband went to Walmart and bought the music adapter that goes in the cassette deck, son thought he had committed some kind of dark magic.

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This made me laugh and laugh. I fondly remember my cassette adapter. Logged tens of thousands of miles in my car with one of those.

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RIGHT? Son's mind was BLOWN.

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the tape deck in my 93 Civic died somewhere around 2009, which meant I could no longer use my cassette adapter! I had to use the frequency one, which is indeed annoying on road trips, especially through areas without much radio pick up. So, in what I consider one my most brilliant moments, I bought a small ipod dock and some adhesive velcro and then I had a (low profile) speaker I could stick on my dashboard when I needed it and hide away when I didn't.

I miss that car.

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There was a girl in my graduate program who faked cancer. It was wild! The lies just snowballed. On one hand I really felt bad for her, but we were all under the same pressure. Some people just can't take it.

I would make that sausage ring and just set it out at a cocktail party, just to see who dove in. It doesn't sound bad; maybe some butter-crisped sage leaves on top. I could make that look good.

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My first thought was wow! And then I thought about how stress gives people stomach & back issues and migraines. And unfortunately there are suicides. Faking a disease is extreme and if you set up a GoFundMe a total con. But humans will do a lot under stress conditions.

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I hadn't heard about this until this morning and was immediately curious. I read an article that had the writers response, which was that lying was her coping mechanism. I can see that, but also - it's hard to believe anything they say now? Once lies get that deep, how do you have anyone trust you on any level? The documentary must have been cathartic for many people to vent about what they experienced.

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Jessica I deeply share your love of 1970s cookbooks. The photographs! And do you remember that wonderful website featuring vintage Weight Watchers recipes? I think written by a TWOP writer.

Also people DRANK in the 70s. And late 60s. There are ads pitched to tired moms that a little wine can take the edge off the day. The ads are not subtle.

I also love Billie's cover and if that's a wig, it's a very good one. She might do a wig for touring. It might be easier although so hot! But one must suffer for art.

I am impressed about much I still enjoy her. Normally a teen sensation would drive me batty by now. And she has one song, "Ocean Eyes" I have to turn off immediately if it comes on. Full body cringe. But she was probably very very young when she wrote it. I will blame her bro for that one. For no reason at all other than he ought to have stopped it.

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Wendy McClure and "The Amazing Mackerel Pudding Plan"!

The recipe cards are still around!

https://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html

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And this why the Internet is good sometimes.

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Yes! I linked to this a couple of months ago, it still has the power to slay me no matter how many times I look at it.

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70s Dinner Party is one of my favourite follows, and reading out loud the recipe for Goblin Sandwiches almost caused us to drive off the highway: "tested quality donuts" (I have NO idea what those are), Brazil nuts, devilled ham, avocado pear and worcestershire sauce?? Perfection (and serves 6 to 8)

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I had not heard about this Grey’s writer situation and this is SO wild!!

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Omg it is INSANE, the VF articles are great and then someone (The Ankler?) did an interview with Finch in response. I think the actual footage of her in her fake cancer mode will compel me to watch the doc. -H

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This linked article was fantastic and as a person who still loves Grey’s I was so interested in how it was written into the show too! I am still need to finish Nobody Wants This but I am interested in the doc now!

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Those menus absolutely ended with everyone tossing their keys in a bowl.

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Truly. Though you'd think with all that fiber and gelatin their stomachs wouldn't really be up for it.

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lol lol lol forever

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How would you clean your kettle after making a toe warmer?!?!?

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Not realizing she was giving us recipes, I googled toe warmer and online recipes use apple cider. That sound nicer than hot lemonade.

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I was thinking it would actually be good with apple cider or good quality orange juice. The lemonade sounds very wrong for the other ingredients.

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Almost the same name but yumm: https://mynorth.com/at_biz_dir/warm-me-to-my-toes-cocktail/

And finally a use for the pumpkin pie spice!

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That sounds excellent!

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It's just a cheater's hot toddy!

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That's what I was thinking too! Lemonade and cinnamon, maaaaaaybe? Orange and cinnamon can work, I guess. And clove - NO! No, No, No. There's no way that's good!

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That recipe is basically a hot toddy, right? With lemonade instead of lemon juice and honey? I'll be making one of those (without the alcohol, darn it) if my respiratory infection doesn't clear up.

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Yeah, it's basically just saving you the hassle of balancing lemon juice and sugar on your own.

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Yeah, that was my thought too. Don't think I'd want one at brunch though--it's definitely a sip-on-a-winter's-evening kind of beverage.

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This was my first thought! Then I thought, well just make it in a pot, why does it need to be a kettle? Because I do like a warm bourbon drink in the winter but I am not trying to clean lemonade residue out of my kettle.

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My god yes!! It would be a mess!!

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I have a glass electric water kettle, and I'd love for it to be dishwasher safe so I could cook pasta, or make spiced chai tea right in it. But when the cleaning is by hand, it cooks in a pot that goes in the dishwasher instead.

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Kettle used to be routinely used to refer to a large pot, not just a tea/hot water kettle. So the recipe's just telling you to make it in a large pot. (Nowadays, kettle is otherwise a more specialized term, i.e. fish kettle or soup kettle, which is a commercial warming pot.)

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This is actually a huge relief!

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Junior League cookbooks are the bomb! When I recently culled my cookbooks, the jr league ones weren't even taken off the shelf!

My mom had a 1001 Ways to Please A Husband cookbook. The majority of the time I ask her for a recipe of something she used to make, it came from that cookbook. One day I'm going to be crazy with my money and buy a copy.

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That... doesn't sound like a cookbook.

But my lord my siblings would take that title and run with it, decades of pushing-the-envelope veiled lewd cracks that my parents would pretend not to understand.

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I feel like the underlying message to this cookbook is “we just discovered curry powder and are putting it in everything!”

True story: I was taught to make “curry” with curry powder, cream of mushroom soup, and ketchup. Cook your chicken in it. And I’m Asian! (East Asian, not South or SE.) The 70s were a trip, my friend, and so were the early 80s. It’s also possible that these were the only ingredients available in a midwestern suburb.

I really want to know what Junior League Toast is.

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It’s basically just garlic bread!

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We always had leg of lamb at Easter and then my mom would make "lamb curry" out of the cubed leftover bits. It was a very large pot (we were a family of six) and the entire thing had maybe one teaspoon of curry powder in it? Yum we loved it.

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That's amazing!

Tasting History with Max Miller on YouTube has a wild video on the history of ketchup, which originally started in Asia as fermented fish sauce, then in Europe turned into the most bizarre game of telephone (any ingredients except tomato, any flavor profile), and eventually became today's tomato ketchup. So that curry might have worked with the original kind of ketchup!

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I'd never heard the term "patty shell" before and had to look it up. It's...a puff pastry shell? Is it a regional term? Who is Patty? This is why I don't cook.

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I used to LOVE patty shells—for years, I would request patty shells with chicken a la king for my birthday! Patty shells are indeed still available under the name Puff Pastry Shells.

Just for fun, I Googled patty shells to try and find out where the heck the name came from, and I found this recipe: https://teatimemagazine.com/chicken-la-king-patty-shells/

And here's the etymology: The word patty, and its sibling pasty (pronounced like past with an /i/ on the end), come from an older sense of French pâté, which in turn comes from pâte, which is cognate with pasta and pastry and comes ultimately from Greek παστη pasté, “paste” or “barley porridge”. The English sense, in use by 1660, was first a meat pie. The meaning transferred to the filling – specifically formed and shaped as a disc – by the early 20th century.

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Pasties -- not like the nipple stickers but pronounced the other way -- are DELICIOUS! Cornish pasties are a treat. --H

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I do feel like I mostly know them from books where people would make fancy chicken a la king for special occasions!! - J

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I'd never heard of them either! Buying a bunch of them, thawing them, smushing them together, and rolling them out seems like way too much effort. Why wouldn't the recipe just have you buy frozen sheets of puff pastry?

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I looked this up because I was like...maybe pre-made puff pastry didn't exist yet?!? But it did. Maybe it wasn't too wide-spread and this was the workaround? - J

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I think it probably just wasn't very common, but the shells were common? I had to go to three grocery stores in Los Angeles in 2014 to get all-butter puff pastry when Guillaume wanted to make a gateau de roi (not to be confused with NOLA's idea of king cake) for an epiphany party (we watched a movie).

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Trader Joe's stocks all-butter puff pastry as a seasonal item, usually starting around November. It's only around $5, so it's very worth just stashing a box in the freezer for whatever. Especially when the most widely available all-butter brand, Dufour, is $$$.

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Oh, I know!! I now regularly stash half a dozen boxes in the freezer every year. But they're usually sold out before Christmas, so this was not of help to me in 2014 when I did not yet know this, lol.

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I don't think they even carried it back in 2014!

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I read that Mariah makes millions every winter from royalties alone, and even if that's way overestimating things, doesn't make all this more trouble than it's worth? Is there really a market for all this? I'm not a Luddite or a Swiftie so I'm not buying physical music media - but am I out of step?

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That Autumn brunch menu (and this title)-

Woodcock or Surprise Package- seriously, I'm dying. They knew what they were doing, right. I feel like this is a glimpse into Kansas City's Key Party culture.

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Those vintage recipe names sound concerning, but aside from the hot curried fruit, I'd give them all a try! (Though smushing together all the "patty shells" has an eau de Sandra Lee about it.) If you've not seen B.Dylan Hollis' TikToks of vintage baking recipes, you're missing out! He is adorable and the recipes run the gamut from delicious to discomfiting.

Billie's cover is good! I especially like how they kept the rest of the cover in the same colors and fairly minimalist.

As for Mariah's cassettes...after recently unearthing a box of mix tapes, I bought a cheapie knock-off Walkman and have been enjoying re-listening to my lost youth. I have found it oddly soothing to have a device that ONLY plays music and does not offer all the distractions a phone provides, so I can see how it could catch on with the youth. (I will also forever associate AIWFCIY with the 2020 election, with people blasting it at a gas station in LA in celebration of the Orange Menace's (first) defeat. Here's hoping for a repeat.)

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Yes, I also don't love having my phone be everything. I clung pretty hard to my separate iPod for a long time, and even had a digital camera. Now its all one phone and I wouldn't mind going back to something that was only music. I don't like everything being so connected!

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I still have my iPod and snapped up another one when Apple discontinued them "just in case". I only use it for my walks but it fits in my pocket so much easier than my clunky phone and I get 60-90 minutes of "me" time with no texts or calls. I also like to have it as backup on planes so I can listen to music without worrying about being able to connect to Spotify if there's noise I need to block.

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I still have and use an ipod and I bought 2 backups off of ebay. My current ipod is about 10 yrs old, so I'm hoping that these last me for a long time.

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I'm still hanging on for dear life to my old iPod. It tends to glitch up when I have too much loaded on it, so I just use it for my podcasts these days, and I definitely miss having a dedicated music player.

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My solution for this has been to put on my headphones and put my phone in another place -- another room, my purse, whatever -- so it can shuffle itself silly and I can't see it. I like the idea of listening to old mix tapes! That sadly is one thing I don't have hoarded anywhere. --H

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Man, I wish I had kept my old mix tapes. I put so much time and effort into them!!

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Love B.Dylan--I absolutely bought his cookbook to add to my collection. (I don't cook...but have an irrational love of cookbooks)

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Hot curried fruit is delicious! I make a batch every now and then in the winter, with the original sugar content dialed down a bit.

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Billie's Vogue cover is absolutely stunning. It's a perfect rendering of what I imagine her to be. Now on to read the article to see if I'm right.

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