Did I hear Sofia Vergara yell "you already won!" to Jodie Foster? She had a pretty funny "dammit" reaction to the camera after Jodie's speech. I also loved Jennifer Coolidge talking about Billy Bob Thornton's emotional support coyote or whatever, and I wish they'd have cut to him since he was fully in the audience. But I didn't quite get her triplet joke?
Putting aside my disdain for the Golden Globes as an organisation (somehow made all the more obviously corrupt by the Penske Media buyout) and my dislike of Emilia Perez, this was not a bad show? Like, how cool is it that Demi Moore won for a raucous body horror satire about Hollywood misogyny? And Brady Corbet going from child star to auteur (and his daughter was so cute!) And Sebastian Stan finally getting some love for A Different Man? I like the Globes more when it's just a party where weird films win rather than an eager Oscars predicator.
Also, it's good to know that Adrien Brody is still dating Georgina Chapman. Has she been to his castle yet?
wow there's so much in here I need to dig in - what was Brady Corbet in as a kid? and I KNEW Georgina looked familiar! Maybe I would have recognized her more quickly if she'd been wearing a ton of feathers...
It's actually a very good movie I never want to watch again! The wiki is very enlightening about how carefully it was made to not actually traumatize the young actors, and it made me think more highly of Araki than I had previously (I'd had him in a "stylish but pointlessly edgy" box beforehand, which I have come to think is entirely unfair).
He’s a solid filmmaker working in a lot of genres and with an aesthetic that doesn’t get a lot of respect. His work isn’t my thing, but I hold him in high regard.
Yeah, I was very much unfairly prejudiced by how much I'd loved the first half and hated the second half of Doom Generation when I saw it back in high school, lol
My understanding is that it's more about immigration than architecture? It's been making waves among film buffs since its festival premiere, bc it was somehow shot on the cheap in actual VistaVision. Everyone I know who's seen it so far has at least liked it (some have loved it).
Kumail Nanjiani had a funny remark on Bluesky that if he had known The Brutalist would have quite so many hand jobs, he wouldn't have watched it with his parents.
I just read the interview, and this exchange really made me laugh:
DOMINGO: What do you like about being a father?
CULKIN: Absolutely everything except dinner time. . . . Do you ever want kids?
DOMINGO: I wanted kids in my 20s. Now, I have a lot of really good furniture.
(I always say that my least favorite thing about being parent--aside from all the emotional stuff where you can't keep your kids' hearts from breaking--is having to keep them fed. Three times a day? Really? That seems excessive. And it's exhausting, at least for me and a lot of other parents I know.)
Seems like the takeaway is that the Brutalist and Emilia Perez are the biggest Oscar contenders post-Globes. I was surprised to see Anora completely shut out, when comedy is usually a softer field. Some early predictions had that as a front-runner.
I am going to be the humorless scold who says that Anora is an occasionally comedic drama, not a comedy, and people who watch it at home rather than with an audience are probably seeing/ feeling that. I haven't had as disconnected a reaction to a movie once I saw it myself vs the film-world buzz since Uncut Gems- that is, I did not find UG tense bc I didn't care what happened to the main character. Conversely, I did not find the purportedly uproarious middle portion of Anora humorous because I DID care what happened to her. The acting in the movie is by and large great, but it has some real flaws that I think people are going to be commenting on more as the awards season intensifies.
I read this and was like, “Isn’t that what I said???” No Hesther, you conflated that and the Goldblum/Yeoh thing. Sigh!!! I shall fix right now for anyone not reading in the email… -H
This is so beautifully written: "We hope anyone out there who needs it knows you can always turn to a Broad for help in fighting the lies our brains try to tell us. You matter. You are wanted." I know a lot of people are going back to work today and may be stressed out. Sending hugs to everyone.
I did not catch that the arrows were pointing to where the nominees were sitting; I was too busy yelling at the TV about how we don't need a wide shot of the ballroom and tiny tiny pictures of the actors in character alongside their on-site close ups - who thought that was a good idea?? And not for nothing, as a hearing impaired person who uses captions, the graphics were often hidden by the captions, depending on what part of the screen they opted to use for that particular category.
Such a good comment re: captions. Was no one thinking about accessibility when they decided to do that? They could definitely have been placed on the screen so they weren't blocked by captions. It was a little overstimulating feeling like I had to process different information visually than I was processing auditorily at the same time. I don't think I like this timeline when we need all the information handed to us all at the same time, but that's a different rant?
Oh gosh, that didn't even occur to me. They probably should have gone MORE pop-up video and placed them higher so it didn't fight with captions -- that's such a good note. - J
Overall, it was fine. Not great, but entertaining enough. My worsts:
Red Carpet show: when did this become just another celebrity interview show? Where are the up-and-down panning shots of the interviewee's ensemble, and the close-ups of accessories? That's what I'm here for.
Scripted presenter intros: more misses than hits for me; they need better writing. The apparent teleprompter glitches didn't help, either.
Big Pharma: The worst commercials on TV are drug ads and, with Lily sponsoring the show, there were SO many of them. And the commercial breaks in general were LONG. (Side note: regrettably, this is why I don't participate in the live chats. I can't take the commercials, which is why I DVR the show and join it after an hour or so, to FF through all the ads.)
Those of us outside the US are always gobsmacked by the amount of drug advertising over there, and the way that Big Pharma wines and dines the docs. I rememeber going to get a mani/pedi and grabbing a magazine to read-only to find that 2/3rds of it was multi-page drug adverts and I got through the actual content in 20 minutes.
Heading over to GFY to get the Fug take on the fashion now.
Do any Broads here know how the economics of pharma ads work? I googled unsuccessfully. There were a whole bunch of ads for HIV meds last night. That just seems like this is not a massive demographic to advertise to, and presumably these patients are closely monitored by doctors who craft their treatment plan? And there were lots of other meds for fairly obscure disorders which cannot have that many patients. I get that our pharma industry is supper messed up, but it just doesn't seem like it could possibly make sense from a pure marketing standpoint?
Good point, and also as I pointed out in the chat it was a little weird for Eli Lilly to advertise Zepbound so much when there's a national shortage? You want people to want to take it but then...it's not available?
I think you saw ads for Apretude, which isn't for HIV but for HIV PrEP, or pre-exposure prophylaxis. It's a drug you take so that you don't get HIV. Their market is primarily men who have sex with men. Which is a pretty big market and the Globes is probably a pretty good target for that group.
9.4 million people watched and that's up 50% from last year, so maybe it was a relatively cost-efficient investment. But either way, linear TV (cable or satellite, vs. streaming) remains the vast majority of pharma ad spend, though digital and streaming are of course always growing.
I honestly am not sure how much of the reason is because the ROI really does still justify it, and how much of the reason is because pharma has always been an incredibly small-c conservative and change-averse field (we make banking look wildly innovative). TV ads have always been the holy grail of a brand that's really Made It. But, on the other hand, a lot of people who have a lot of health problems still watch a lot of TV, so it probably does still make a lot of sense.
I think it's illegal - now - for pharma to wine and dine doctors. I work for a company that employs a lot of American doctors, and even though I'm not medical I had to attest that I was definitely not in any way influencing the patient care of my medical connections.
So like, you probably remember going to the doctor and seeing lots of pens and tissue boxes and stethoscopes and stuff with drug names on it, but not lately. (Nor do providers still get ritzy dinners, trips, free lunches for the whole office, etc.)
Me again-I'm all over this since I was asleep for the actual show!
This was a great bit from Nikki Glaser-https://www.instagram.com/entertainmenttonight/reel/DEd4bmHsspK/
I applaud Kylie for staying off the red carpet-it's nice to see that someone in that family doesn't have to be the main character all the time. Having said that, damn is her dress one deep breath away from a wardrobe malfunction!!
I was exhausted yesterday after taking my kids to an art exhibit at Hudson Yards and didn’t watch, but love reading this recap and the comments.
And I echo the comment above — reminding us all that we matter and are wanted and can turn to one another is beautiful and necessary. My heart goes out to Aubrey Plaza. And I’ve been allowing myself to hide from politics a little since the election but know that soon it will be time for me to re-engage, and that it’s going to be hard.
It IS super windy over there! I don’t have many reasons to go over that way now, but when I worked in Manhattan I liked walking up along the river on nice nights. Probably a good 5 degrees cooler, too, than where there are more buildings.
Luna Luna was really fun! I hope you went at night. It was great to see the amusements activated, even if we can't ride them*.
*For those not familiar, these are pieces from a 1980s fun fair in Germany designed by then contemporary artists. The Ferris wheel was done by Basquiat, for example.
Did I hear Sofia Vergara yell "you already won!" to Jodie Foster? She had a pretty funny "dammit" reaction to the camera after Jodie's speech. I also loved Jennifer Coolidge talking about Billy Bob Thornton's emotional support coyote or whatever, and I wish they'd have cut to him since he was fully in the audience. But I didn't quite get her triplet joke?
I missed that, but I love Sofia and that would have been hilarious to hear.
I saw somewhere last night that Sofia said “Give me one!”
Putting aside my disdain for the Golden Globes as an organisation (somehow made all the more obviously corrupt by the Penske Media buyout) and my dislike of Emilia Perez, this was not a bad show? Like, how cool is it that Demi Moore won for a raucous body horror satire about Hollywood misogyny? And Brady Corbet going from child star to auteur (and his daughter was so cute!) And Sebastian Stan finally getting some love for A Different Man? I like the Globes more when it's just a party where weird films win rather than an eager Oscars predicator.
Also, it's good to know that Adrien Brody is still dating Georgina Chapman. Has she been to his castle yet?
wow there's so much in here I need to dig in - what was Brady Corbet in as a kid? and I KNEW Georgina looked familiar! Maybe I would have recognized her more quickly if she'd been wearing a ton of feathers...
Mysterious Skin! MASSIVE content notes for heavily implied sexual assault.
It's actually a very good movie I never want to watch again! The wiki is very enlightening about how carefully it was made to not actually traumatize the young actors, and it made me think more highly of Araki than I had previously (I'd had him in a "stylish but pointlessly edgy" box beforehand, which I have come to think is entirely unfair).
He’s a solid filmmaker working in a lot of genres and with an aesthetic that doesn’t get a lot of respect. His work isn’t my thing, but I hold him in high regard.
Yeah, I was very much unfairly prejudiced by how much I'd loved the first half and hated the second half of Doom Generation when I saw it back in high school, lol
As usual it was a fun night watching along side y’all. Yay for more of this in the next couple of months.
So many surprises! I never even heard of The Brutalist, though the first award piqued my interest, then by the end I had no desire to see it.
As an architecture nerd, totally interested in the Brutalist although at 3.5 hours, not running out to see it,
My understanding is that it's more about immigration than architecture? It's been making waves among film buffs since its festival premiere, bc it was somehow shot on the cheap in actual VistaVision. Everyone I know who's seen it so far has at least liked it (some have loved it).
Kumail Nanjiani had a funny remark on Bluesky that if he had known The Brutalist would have quite so many hand jobs, he wouldn't have watched it with his parents.
LOL, well, I'm seeing it with a friend tomorrow morning/ early afternoon, but I think we can handle it. Uh, no pun intended.
H&J did you even SLEEP last night?!?!? Thank you for pushing this out early today!
If this hasn't been discussed already, the Kieran/Coleman chat on Vanity Fair was really illuminating
It’s such a good interview and it very much explains Keiran to me.
Thanks for this rec — will go read it!
Sorry it's Variety not VF, apologies! their Actors On Actors interview.
They both start with a V! Easy to mix them up
I just read the interview, and this exchange really made me laugh:
DOMINGO: What do you like about being a father?
CULKIN: Absolutely everything except dinner time. . . . Do you ever want kids?
DOMINGO: I wanted kids in my 20s. Now, I have a lot of really good furniture.
(I always say that my least favorite thing about being parent--aside from all the emotional stuff where you can't keep your kids' hearts from breaking--is having to keep them fed. Three times a day? Really? That seems excessive. And it's exhausting, at least for me and a lot of other parents I know.)
Dammit didn't I JUST feed you?!
Seems like the takeaway is that the Brutalist and Emilia Perez are the biggest Oscar contenders post-Globes. I was surprised to see Anora completely shut out, when comedy is usually a softer field. Some early predictions had that as a front-runner.
I am going to be the humorless scold who says that Anora is an occasionally comedic drama, not a comedy, and people who watch it at home rather than with an audience are probably seeing/ feeling that. I haven't had as disconnected a reaction to a movie once I saw it myself vs the film-world buzz since Uncut Gems- that is, I did not find UG tense bc I didn't care what happened to the main character. Conversely, I did not find the purportedly uproarious middle portion of Anora humorous because I DID care what happened to her. The acting in the movie is by and large great, but it has some real flaws that I think people are going to be commenting on more as the awards season intensifies.
It’s totally not a comedy.
Just seen a post describing Jeremy Strong's outfit as a Shamrock Shake that eldest boy would've worn to perform L to the OG and yeah, that nails it.
My daughter (10) kept seeing him in the audience and saying "the fuzzy bucket hat is...not it."
I read that too and screamed, it was so perfect.
The very fine Canadian duo was Seth Rogen and Catherine O’Hara :)
I read this and was like, “Isn’t that what I said???” No Hesther, you conflated that and the Goldblum/Yeoh thing. Sigh!!! I shall fix right now for anyone not reading in the email… -H
The bit was too long but they delivered it so well. Now where's that buddy comedy?
And now I want to hear Celine Dion sing the gender reaffirming surgery song from EMILIA PEREZ.
This is so beautifully written: "We hope anyone out there who needs it knows you can always turn to a Broad for help in fighting the lies our brains try to tell us. You matter. You are wanted." I know a lot of people are going back to work today and may be stressed out. Sending hugs to everyone.
This made me tear up. I am so grateful for you Broads! Thank you for all of the joy and support in this community.
Also know that help is available via text or talk at 988- crisis hotline (you define crisis).
That's not my personal burden, but I have other mental health burdens, and that was still really nice to read.
I did not catch that the arrows were pointing to where the nominees were sitting; I was too busy yelling at the TV about how we don't need a wide shot of the ballroom and tiny tiny pictures of the actors in character alongside their on-site close ups - who thought that was a good idea?? And not for nothing, as a hearing impaired person who uses captions, the graphics were often hidden by the captions, depending on what part of the screen they opted to use for that particular category.
I liked the arrows but they were so fast
I have a 42" tv and the pop up video captions were often too small to read. It was annoying, esp now that I know what they said thanks to this post!
Such a good comment re: captions. Was no one thinking about accessibility when they decided to do that? They could definitely have been placed on the screen so they weren't blocked by captions. It was a little overstimulating feeling like I had to process different information visually than I was processing auditorily at the same time. I don't think I like this timeline when we need all the information handed to us all at the same time, but that's a different rant?
Oh gosh, that didn't even occur to me. They probably should have gone MORE pop-up video and placed them higher so it didn't fight with captions -- that's such a good note. - J
I thought Jeff Goldblum and Michelle Yeoh's bit was soooooo painful. I loved Awkwafina and Melissa McCarthy, though.
Am I the only one who wanted to hear more of "Pope-ular"??
never address the memes! and yes I wanted more of Pope-ular (except I'm not a Wicked person so I was singing it to the tune of the Nada Surf song)
Yes, not nearly enough Pope-ular!
Overall, it was fine. Not great, but entertaining enough. My worsts:
Red Carpet show: when did this become just another celebrity interview show? Where are the up-and-down panning shots of the interviewee's ensemble, and the close-ups of accessories? That's what I'm here for.
Scripted presenter intros: more misses than hits for me; they need better writing. The apparent teleprompter glitches didn't help, either.
Big Pharma: The worst commercials on TV are drug ads and, with Lily sponsoring the show, there were SO many of them. And the commercial breaks in general were LONG. (Side note: regrettably, this is why I don't participate in the live chats. I can't take the commercials, which is why I DVR the show and join it after an hour or so, to FF through all the ads.)
Those of us outside the US are always gobsmacked by the amount of drug advertising over there, and the way that Big Pharma wines and dines the docs. I rememeber going to get a mani/pedi and grabbing a magazine to read-only to find that 2/3rds of it was multi-page drug adverts and I got through the actual content in 20 minutes.
Heading over to GFY to get the Fug take on the fashion now.
It’s really something. I wish more people would get to travel so they could see it doesn’t have to be like this.
Do any Broads here know how the economics of pharma ads work? I googled unsuccessfully. There were a whole bunch of ads for HIV meds last night. That just seems like this is not a massive demographic to advertise to, and presumably these patients are closely monitored by doctors who craft their treatment plan? And there were lots of other meds for fairly obscure disorders which cannot have that many patients. I get that our pharma industry is supper messed up, but it just doesn't seem like it could possibly make sense from a pure marketing standpoint?
Really not massive demographic as only people assigned male at birth can take them, if I remember from the warning language in the ad.
There were also SO many ozempic related ads. I mean, what the hell Weight Watchers, you're a diet and lifestyle not a doctor's office.
Good point, and also as I pointed out in the chat it was a little weird for Eli Lilly to advertise Zepbound so much when there's a national shortage? You want people to want to take it but then...it's not available?
The FDA recently declared an end to the shortage; which means a lot of the companies selling compounded versions will have to stop.
I found this: https://www.vox.com/23583280/prescription-drug-ads-commercials-ozempic-humira-fda
Hi, I work in this field!
I think you saw ads for Apretude, which isn't for HIV but for HIV PrEP, or pre-exposure prophylaxis. It's a drug you take so that you don't get HIV. Their market is primarily men who have sex with men. Which is a pretty big market and the Globes is probably a pretty good target for that group.
9.4 million people watched and that's up 50% from last year, so maybe it was a relatively cost-efficient investment. But either way, linear TV (cable or satellite, vs. streaming) remains the vast majority of pharma ad spend, though digital and streaming are of course always growing.
I honestly am not sure how much of the reason is because the ROI really does still justify it, and how much of the reason is because pharma has always been an incredibly small-c conservative and change-averse field (we make banking look wildly innovative). TV ads have always been the holy grail of a brand that's really Made It. But, on the other hand, a lot of people who have a lot of health problems still watch a lot of TV, so it probably does still make a lot of sense.
super informative!!
You rock
I think it's illegal - now - for pharma to wine and dine doctors. I work for a company that employs a lot of American doctors, and even though I'm not medical I had to attest that I was definitely not in any way influencing the patient care of my medical connections.
You're right: the big trade body (PhRMA) has a code of conduct that prohibits things like expensive dinners or branded merch, and limits sales & marketing offerings to specifically educational things. ( https://www.phrma.org/-/media/Project/PhRMA/PhRMA-Org/PhRMA-Org/PDF/P-R/PhRMA-Code---Final.pdf )
You're also right that that was NOT the case in the 90's and early 00's (https://phrma.org/en/resource-center/Pages/Statement-on-Revisions-to-the-PhRMA-Code-on-Interactions-with-Health-Care-Professionals).
So like, you probably remember going to the doctor and seeing lots of pens and tissue boxes and stethoscopes and stuff with drug names on it, but not lately. (Nor do providers still get ritzy dinners, trips, free lunches for the whole office, etc.)
- Pharma nerd
Me again-I'm all over this since I was asleep for the actual show!
This was a great bit from Nikki Glaser-https://www.instagram.com/entertainmenttonight/reel/DEd4bmHsspK/
I applaud Kylie for staying off the red carpet-it's nice to see that someone in that family doesn't have to be the main character all the time. Having said that, damn is her dress one deep breath away from a wardrobe malfunction!!
I couldn’t get the E! red carpet show so I went with the Variety/ET show after the paparazzi yelling on the AP stream just got to be too much.
I didn’t really like the Variety/ET hosts, but they were weird enough that I could at least wonder how weird they’d get.
I was exhausted yesterday after taking my kids to an art exhibit at Hudson Yards and didn’t watch, but love reading this recap and the comments.
And I echo the comment above — reminding us all that we matter and are wanted and can turn to one another is beautiful and necessary. My heart goes out to Aubrey Plaza. And I’ve been allowing myself to hide from politics a little since the election but know that soon it will be time for me to re-engage, and that it’s going to be hard.
I just occurred to me this morning that there weren’t any campaign ads, and how nice that was.
I need to go fully explore Hudson Yards. Maybe when it’s a smidge warmer😂
It is possibly the windiest place on earth! So waiting for a temperature increase is good thinking
It IS super windy over there! I don’t have many reasons to go over that way now, but when I worked in Manhattan I liked walking up along the river on nice nights. Probably a good 5 degrees cooler, too, than where there are more buildings.
If you have the chance, the exhibit we saw was Luna Luna, basically an art amusement park. It was really cool and fun
Luna Luna was really fun! I hope you went at night. It was great to see the amusements activated, even if we can't ride them*.
*For those not familiar, these are pieces from a 1980s fun fair in Germany designed by then contemporary artists. The Ferris wheel was done by Basquiat, for example.
Very shallow comment based on a mere glimpse - seemed like Nicole and Angelina were having trouble walking gracefully in the very high heels?
Maybe they, like the rest of us, got out of the habit during the pandemic and are having a hard time regaining the skill, lol